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Former supporter now rejects “Revolution”

And that is what this movement is full of: High-sounding talk. You see it in Barna’s book “Revolution”. You hear it everywhere you go in the ‘Out-of-church’ movement. Vast claims are being made for those who will simply “come out” – and actually “BE the church without having to GO to church”, etc. One would think that “coming out” was the solution to all that ails us. But as I have seen for 20 years now, nothing could be further from the truth.

The facts are plain and simple: If your thinking and behaviour are basically “anti-Body” and “anti-Leader”, then don’t expect to get anywhere. And don’t expect the Body of Christ to get anywhere either. We are not designed to be an “amorphous blob”. We are designed to be a unified army with leaders and direction and teamwork – taking the kingdom of darkness using “combined force”. United together we are very powerful – for God designed us to be a ‘Body’. Split apart into “individualists”, we are weak and ineffective…

In closing, I need to say this: Because I can no longer condone the ‘Out-of-church’ Revolution that I have endorsed for many years, I needed to take my e-book “The OUT-OF-CHURCH Christians” off the main page of our website – This has now been done.


So says Andrew Strom at the above mentioned and popular website. Some of his points are indeed valid – others not very. Scripture, in fact, does warn us of the modern manifestation of what are known as “church leaders.” Not all, of course.

4 Responses to “Former supporter now rejects “Revolution””

  1. Are Karlsen says:

    Puh … at first I thougt it was you that had changed opinion.

    Im shrugging when reading “We are designed to be a unified army with leaders …”

    Unified – yes, in the Lord. Direction and teamwork – oh, yes, by the Spirit.

  2. Luke Allen says:

    Have you ever attended a Toastmasters club meeting? Toastmasters is a public speaking club where people learn leadership and public speaking skills in an organized program supported by a decentralized international organization.

    A lot of churches would be a lot more Church if they functioned in a similar manner. Heck, I enjoy my Toastmasters club more than I enjoy my church.

  3. I don’t know much about the “out of church” movement. The name seems to be a bit of a misnomer. Does really mean “out of fellowship?” or does it mean “out of institutional ecclessialogical structures with top down hierarchical leadership?” Andrew seems to have conflated the two. If this is the case, it is not surprising that he has reached a dead-end and sees only one solution.

  4. Dave Bradley says:

    Much of what Andrew says seems to be his own faith journey. None of us can speak for another individual, especially without making judgements. I applaud Andrew’s courage to speak out and I pray the Spirit fills him with discernment.
    I do struggle with terms like ARMY and LEADERS. As humans, we have made the mistake of desiring a leader of this world since creation. Even God tells the Hebrews in the Old Testament not to have KINGS of this world, but they insist. Read the book of KINGS just to get an idea of how screwed up the body of Christ can become when we place our faith in leadership of this world. Also, whenever I hear the term ARMY, I begin to picture all the souls that have been lost to the insanity of war. My fear is that such terms begin to take on the contextualization and body of our world and not the Kingdom of God. I pray the Peace and Love of Christ be the weapons we use in our everyday battles with things of this world. Remember, we are to be ‘in this world’ and not ‘of this world.’
    Andrew, wherever your journey takes you, I pray that the Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ embraces, strengthens, and fills you with what is Our Lord’s Will. May God’s Will, not ours, Be Done!!

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