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JeffL said:
Matthew,

Abuse can be relative.

Having worked with abused and neglected children for years, I understand that fact. However, what bearing does it have here? Is your stipulation then, that "less" abuse is better? Is abuse not abuse, period?


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There are some children who are so mistreated that a "hit, slap, kick, punch, and scream" would to them be welcomed.

I have never met one. Have you? I think abuse is never welcome... If it is I have never seen it, and I have worked with children since I was 14.


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Your child is young but as it grows older you may be surprised that your discipline, what you administer for good, may be misconstrued as abusive.

Fascinating. My parents were very strict, but fair. They also never did anything arbitrary, and always took the time to explain why they had the rules they had.

They had three children. None of us ever "rebelled." One is a PHD, and teaches MDs, one is a rocket scientist (no joke), and I am... well, the anomaly. [Smile]

I am raising my child (and any other children The Lord may bless me with) much like my parents raised me. I pray they see in me at least as much of The Lord as we all saw in our parents.

The really cool thing is, children spell love, "T I M E." I'm forever grateful that my parents invested the time in us that they did. And for the record, I never thought that they were abusive! [Big Grin]

Matthew

Oh, one more thing. The pool is open! I'm headed out there now, for some of that "time with my child" I just talked about! [Smile]

Matthew
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Laurie Ann said:
I pray that you'll be able to sift through what evil was done to you in such a way as to emerge scarred but victorious.

Thanks Laurie Ann. [Smile] Please keep praying. KJV "Wherefore let him that thinks he stands take heed lest he fall." or... Greek Interlinear "As besides The One seeming to have stood, let him be looking, less he should be falling!"

Matthew

Laurie Ann
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Funny how the Greek Interlinear starts sounding like Pidgin English.
Cuts right to the heart of it!

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Laurie Ann said:
Funny how the Greek Interlinear starts sounding like Pidgin English.
Cuts right to the heart of it!

And that, my dear lady, is why I love it so!!! [Big Grin] Just a note here: I'm not doing any worse (that I know of). [Smile] I'm still just working things out. I'm more determined than ever to stay away from anything that resembles church! It would appear that I have been removed from the home church's email list, which is fine with me. I put the word out that I didn't want to have anything to do with any type of "church" function. I really like the fact that I'm no longer included, if that is the case. I was ignoring the blanket emails anyway, and wondering how to "bow out gracefully". [Smile] They have been really nice to my wife and I (in a christian sort of way). I know you understand what I'm talking about Laurie Ann!!!

The truth is, I fit in here... and this is pretty much the only place. [Big Grin]

Thanks again,
Matthew

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Again, Matthew, welcome to Heresy Central, where the remnant rediscovers First Love and a new level of Life.

LA

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Thanks for the welcome. [Smile] I guess that's why I stick around. [Big Grin] Hey, maybe the moderator should change the name of the café! [Embarrassed]

Matthew

Rich 1
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Just got new book in mail "Spiritual Fathers," a bit in there about our woundedness being a barrier to closeness with Him. AS you say, the degree may be more serious for some than others, but a condition we share. PERHAPS WHEN ONE FINDS THE STRENGHT TO TRUST HE WHO HEALS, THAN, AT LEAST THE WORST IS OVER.

Still, we do need flesh and blood support to help make the experience real. Rich

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Please indulge me in what may seem a silly question. I have skimmed this thread and am not sure what is meant by "IC." "HC" I assume refers to a "house church." what does "IC" refer to? does it mean "institutional church"?

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The IC is the evil (just kidding) [Smile] "institutionalized church" or what I like to call the traditional church. It took me a bit of searching to figure that one out too!
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