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i have been the leader of our (traditional) church's (IC) children's ministry for a while now...
recently, our church has prayerfully and deliberately chosen not to pursue a building anymore (we had been renting), but to hive off into 4 (and eventually more) house churches, under the existing 'name'. We plan to get together in a bigger gathering every 4-6 weeks in a park or other space.
This Sunday (Oct 1, 2006) is our first Sunday under this new structure. We have a group meeting at my husband and my house....
I am excited about the change, but honestly, a little nervous about how it works with the younger children... Our children's leaders (there are 4) are going to meet this week for the first time (operating under this new structure), and i was wondering if there were ideas that other house churches had for things to 'incorporate' the kids into the conversation/mix? We are quite drastically going from a 'traditional children's church - classroom style' one week, to house church the next. This is going to be a big change and i am concerned with how it works for both the parents and the children.
some thoughts i had initially were to give the kids a journal and colored pencils every week so they can draw their interpretation of the study -- or give them a tangible 'takeaway' as an object lesson... or clip boards with paper to draw on...
but am i complicating this too much again? is it ok for them to just be in the room? does that work, even when they arent used to it? will parents feel like their kids will understand the study?
my other question is what about the 2-3 year olds? does someone need to go in another room with them? or do they just roam freely around while discussion is going on-- our church family is not used to this at all and i am afraid parents are going to be worried about this - and although as a leader this is fine with me, i wonder if the parents will worry about this?....
and what about babies? is there a separate room in the house they should go to?
help! im worried, and i know worry is not of God but i cant figure out how this will work.......... any insight is greatly appreciated...
truelove
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How exciting.... Well, it's to be expected that you would have some questions and concerns since you have been going to a church and had lots of structure I'm sure. I just think it's so neat that you are coming away from that to allow everyone to participate. Let me just share what happened in my house when we gathered. We came in at around 5 pm and had a shared meal.. Adult's and children shared their hello's and happenings, people just kind of naturally socialized and some were busy putting all the food together that was brought. But no designated person, usually the house owners, usually us, kind of were busy about and then some others just kind of offered to help. It was very unstructured, usually parent's just watched over their own children as a parent would probably do in most environments; at the grocery store, at the park, maybe at a homeschool group of homeschooled, or a family reunion... Following the preperation then our coming together in prayer and thanks to God. We'd sit to eat, if you have a big enough dining table for all that's always nice. If not just try to sit close together somehow. But, everyone if possible eats and sits close together for it to really be a time of sharing a meal together. Kind of like you would do at dinner with your family at home. During that time we'd take one loaf of bread representing the body of Christ and we'd pass it around for everyone to break a large piece off just for a reminder of how we are all part of the Body and Jesus said himself, "when you come together, do this in remembrance of me".. It was always different on how that went, sometimes one person or two would be led to share a Scripture, sometimes we'd just start giving thanks in no specific order, but randomly, giving thanks for something. Some times we'd break the bread eat of it and then take a sip of the juice and all hold our glasses up and harmoniously say, "Thank you Jesus".. It was very Spirit led without a prefabricated way of doiing things. There would be lots of discussion going on amongst people, but usually if it's under 8 or 10 people one person would speak at a time and everyone just listened. When it gets bigger than that people tend to have a couple of conversations going on.. But, it wasn't preordained to be that way, it just kind of happened and dialogue just took place. Usually, it was kind of harmonious when everyone would kind of get up, bring their dishes to the sink and then head into the livingroom and gather around on comfy chairs and sofa's, or pillows on the floor. But, right in the middle of the room on the floor was a special place dedicated for the children. It would be a large blanket with some paper, crayons, colored pencils, maybe coloring books, or printed out pictures for coloring, and sometimes a special craft depending on the age of the kids, and a couple bowls of popcorn, etc. The teenagers would take the initiative to sit down with them and help the smaller ones in whatever they were doing, or maybe just let them sit on their lap. That's not to say that if a child wanted to sit with mom or dad that it couldn't happen. Sometimes a child just needed to sit in mom's lap or maybe stand by another older person. It just happened naturally. Of course there would be a need for some guidance. But you just would deal with it as it came up at any time. People just work together and understand. That's family, that's life..and we allow for the extra minutes it takes to quiet Sally and get her situated. Now of course if one was being unruly the parent would take him/her out of the room and deal with her child however that happens in their own home. But, really nothing different than what any parent would do if their child was misbehaving at any place, such as the grocery store, or the doctor's office, etc. The children would all get comfy on the blanket and the parent's would start sharing or singing or whatever someone felt lead to do. The kids listened, they were encouraged to sing along, and at times during the gathering asked if they had any songs they would like us to sing, if we had a particular discussion on a certain topic, which often times seemed to just happen naturally, anyways, the kids would be asked very simple, general questions on what they thought about it, or however we could include them in the discussion, at any age, of course not babies. Teenagers, middle schoolers, elementary, and toddlers alike. But, they would share along with us and we applied grace to the wiggle worms or those who had a hard time sitting still. We didn't allow running around, but we didn't force them to contribute, we just encouraged it and allowed it and showed interest in them, we encouraged them to dialogue along with us. It was simply amazing.... some of the prayers, as well as the things they would share or add to a topic that would just bless our hearts and I came to understand the beauty of children being allowed to participate along with adults. Suffer not the children to come unto me.. Remember how the disciples tried to stop the children from going to Jesus, obviously they probably thought like many adults think, "children should be seen and not heard",, But, Jesus said, "don't stop them from coming for such is the Kingdom of God"... Wow, so let them come, let them be in with you, try not to seperate them because of age or by age, for they will speak from the same Holy Spirit that is within others and they will truly learn from everyone at any age and the adults may learn from them as well, if nothing else, the beauty of youth. And those who aren't saved yet, will learn about Him in a very beautiful environment, that which is modeled after the family. Hope this helps.
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Just a quick observation for those of you who do have larger groups. Ever hear of family churches? I attended a couple in years past. They did not have children's church or nursery. Parents kept their kids with them the entire time; except for the older ones who where allowed to sit with a friend's family or maybe a teen who would be responsible for the little ones. It worked real well. Parents would bring a blanket for small ones to sleep on and quiet age appropriate toys for tots and up. Of course there was a room to take those who needed feeding or changing or discipline if misbehaving. Very simular to any gathering of people anywhere. BTW, if the parents let their kids run wild, the parents were disciplined. This worked in a small family church of maybe 20+ and in a large church or 300+.
-------------------- 1 Thes. 5:21 (KJV) Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
quote:Originally posted by truelove: How exciting.... Well, it's to be expected that you would have some questions and concerns since you have been going to a church and had lots of structure I'm sure. I just think it's so neat that you are coming away from that to allow everyone to participate. Let me just share what happened in my house when we gathered. We came in at around 5 pm and had a shared meal.. Adult's and children shared their hello's and happenings, people just kind of naturally socialized and some were busy putting all the food together that was brought. But no designated person, usually the house owners, usually us, kind of were busy about and then some others just kind of offered to help. It was very unstructured, usually parent's just watched over their own children as a parent would probably do in most environments; at the grocery store, at the park, maybe at a homeschool group of homeschooled, or a family reunion... Following the preperation then our coming together in prayer and thanks to God. We'd sit to eat, if you have a big enough dining table for all that's always nice. If not just try to sit close together somehow. But, everyone if possible eats and sits close together for it to really be a time of sharing a meal together. Kind of like you would do at dinner with your family at home. During that time we'd take one loaf of bread representing the body of Christ and we'd pass it around for everyone to break a large piece off just for a reminder of how we are all part of the Body and Jesus said himself, "when you come together, do this in remembrance of me".. It was always different on how that went, sometimes one person or two would be led to share a Scripture, sometimes we'd just start giving thanks in no specific order, but randomly, giving thanks for something. Some times we'd break the bread eat of it and then take a sip of the juice and all hold our glasses up and harmoniously say, "Thank you Jesus".. It was very Spirit led without a prefabricated way of doiing things. There would be lots of discussion going on amongst people, but usually if it's under 8 or 10 people one person would speak at a time and everyone just listened. When it gets bigger than that people tend to have a couple of conversations going on.. But, it wasn't preordained to be that way, it just kind of happened and dialogue just took place. Usually, it was kind of harmonious when everyone would kind of get up, bring their dishes to the sink and then head into the livingroom and gather around on comfy chairs and sofa's, or pillows on the floor. But, right in the middle of the room on the floor was a special place dedicated for the children. It would be a large blanket with some paper, crayons, colored pencils, maybe coloring books, or printed out pictures for coloring, and sometimes a special craft depending on the age of the kids, and a couple bowls of popcorn, etc. The teenagers would take the initiative to sit down with them and help the smaller ones in whatever they were doing, or maybe just let them sit on their lap. That's not to say that if a child wanted to sit with mom or dad that it couldn't happen. Sometimes a child just needed to sit in mom's lap or maybe stand by another older person. It just happened naturally. Of course there would be a need for some guidance. But you just would deal with it as it came up at any time. People just work together and understand. That's family, that's life..and we allow for the extra minutes it takes to quiet Sally and get her situated. Now of course if one was being unruly the parent would take him/her out of the room and deal with her child however that happens in their own home. But, really nothing different than what any parent would do if their child was misbehaving at any place, such as the grocery store, or the doctor's office, etc. The children would all get comfy on the blanket and the parent's would start sharing or singing or whatever someone felt lead to do. The kids listened, they were encouraged to sing along, and at times during the gathering asked if they had any songs they would like us to sing, if we had a particular discussion on a certain topic, which often times seemed to just happen naturally, anyways, the kids would be asked very simple, general questions on what they thought about it, or however we could include them in the discussion, at any age, of course not babies. Teenagers, middle schoolers, elementary, and toddlers alike. But, they would share along with us and we applied grace to the wiggle worms or those who had a hard time sitting still. We didn't allow running around, but we didn't force them to contribute, we just encouraged it and allowed it and showed interest in them, we encouraged them to dialogue along with us. It was simply amazing.... some of the prayers, as well as the things they would share or add to a topic that would just bless our hearts and I came to understand the beauty of children being allowed to participate along with adults. Suffer not the children to come unto me.. Remember how the disciples tried to stop the children from going to Jesus, obviously they probably thought like many adults think, "children should be seen and not heard",, But, Jesus said, "don't stop them from coming for such is the Kingdom of God"... Wow, so let them come, let them be in with you, try not to seperate them because of age or by age, for they will speak from the same Holy Spirit that is within others and they will truly learn from everyone at any age and the adults may learn from them as well, if nothing else, the beauty of youth. And those who aren't saved yet, will learn about Him in a very beautiful environment, that which is modeled after the family. Hope this helps.
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I am part of a family-integrated fellowship that meets in a local school 3 times a month and we rotate homes to meet in the other Sunday(s) a month. We also have other gatherings at times between just 2-4 families or whatever the Lord leads. In our "regular" fellowship meetings at the school or our house church meetings we place the responsibility upon the parents. We have found that in a day and age when it is in vogue to pawn off the responsibilities of parenting to everyone but the parents that this is a good thing. It seems most Christian kids go to schools, children's church, sunday school, AWANA, and on and on and on. The parents are mostly checked out and thus our children are being lost to the world. We hold our parents responsible for the behavior of their children and we encourage them over and over again to be involved in "regular" family worship. Our gatherings are not to usurp the authority of the parents in any way but are intentional in equipping parents to do this job. With this there is accountability and it works!
When we gather in the local school we have a portion of the gathering dedicated to a children's message. We basically work our way through the Bible using the materials from this website: http://children.calvarychapel.com/site/curriculum.htm Someone brings forth a 5-10 minute message related to the material for the week and then the children are given the work-sheets that we download from the website along with a plastic box full of markers and crayons. It has really turned into a wonderful time of dialogue and discussion involving all ages that everyone looks forward to. Of course, the real young (toddlers) children do not participate and the older children are encouraged to follow the lead of their parents. In all things the parents are held up as the highest authority of their children. The father is the priest of the home and whatever he says goes for his children as long as it is within Biblical guidelines. If children get out of bounds or out of control the parents are spoken to in love. We have never had a problem.
Praise the Lord for this step you are taking and allow the Lord to lead you into His ways!
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thank you to each of you. my heart is full because i am so touched by all your words of encouragment and love. i have shared this with our leadership and i thank you so so much for taking the time to respond. you have no idea how much this has helped. our group has now met 3 times, and we are seeing the things you all have said come to life. It is amazing and wonderful, and God is so good. Thank you again for your encouragement. I am so blessed by it.
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B Miller - i am going to check out that curiculum, too. Thank you! And thank you all... This site and these responses have helped me with our transition sooo much, and i have so much peace about it. You all are wonderful. God bless you and your families.
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Great! We have found the time a very good time to encourage multi-generational dialogue, which is easy to leave out. The kids love this time and the adults love this time as well. May the Lord bless your labor for Him.
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Here is a link to the curriculum we chose. I can't vouch for everything on this site, since we are new to HCing, but what we've found so far has been useful.
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I've been using the following resource from New Tribes Mission. Created for the purpose of using storytelling to win tribal peoples to Christ, it has been a great tool for sharing Christ with my own "bouncing baby heathen". It assumes no previous Bible knowledge, and yet points out insights that are sufficient to make the mature believers have something to talk about. "Wow, I never noticed that connection before!"
I just open the book to the next lesson, let the kids act out the Bible story, and talk through the "talking points". It's called "Building on Firm Foundations" and published by New Tribes Mission. Here's a link:
I'll post an ouline here for reference, but the mentor and multiply website is WELL worth perusing for resources for virtually every need a house gathering growing person might need (how's THAT for avoiding church-ese? ) including the downloadable Shepherd's Storybook, which I haven't used but looks similar to BOFF.
Blessings, Laurie Ann
Guidelines to Mobilize Children
1. Children benefit from working and playing with adults and with children of different ages.
· Children of every culture desire the friendship of older youths.
· To develop socially, children should balance time spent with children of their age with time spent playing and working with persons of different ages.
· Traditional public schools and Sunday Schools often deny children such opportunities, segregating them abnormally by age.
· We should free children from the stifling, socially-damaging practice of consistently clustering children of the same age.
2. Children love to act out Bible stories for adults during weekly worship.
· Before the worship time, children can meet with a teacher and prepare a short dramatization of a Bible story that relates to the adults’ study topic.
· Keep the children’s dramas very brief and simple. Avoid long productions and elaborate costumes; employ only the simplest of props. Such dramas do not need much preparation. The children will enjoy looking around the meeting place to find props such as rocks, sticks, chairs, tables, papers and baskets.
· Coach the children to speak loudly. To help them do so, have them talk to those who are standing on the other side of the room.
· The dramas are more effective when children of different ages and adults do them together. Very young children can play the parts of spectators in crowds, other members of a family, animals, and even trees.
· Normally children do better if they do not memorize lines word for word, but rather the general ideas. Their teacher can give them ideas for short dialogues and can prompt them if they forget. For example, tell ‘Philistines’ to laugh at little David and remark in their own words how silly it is for him to fight a giant.
3. Children enjoy being creative. God has given them good imaginations.
· Let older, energetic children write poems, skits and short songs to present to the other children and, if they do it well, to the adults, too. Such compositions should illustrate the topic that the adults are learning that week. Let musicians occasionally set children’s poems to music.
· Children enjoy drawing symbols and pictures of Bible stories. Let them show their pictures during worship and explain how the pictures illustrate the teaching.
4. Children enjoy teaching and discipling others.
· It is extremely valuable for older children to help teach and disciple younger ones.
· Teachers can help children to prepare questions beforehand about details in a Bible story. When the congregation meets, the children can ask these questions, after acting out a story. Children can give the correct answers to their own questions, if the adults do not remember the details well.
· Children enjoy memorizing Psalms and other Scriptures and reciting them for the adults.
5. Children learn well from non-verbal teaching.
· Younger children enjoy singing songs to lively music while making hand motions. They should practice songs with hand motions and sing them for the whole congregation.
· Children love lessons presented with objects that they can see, touch and handle. A wise teacher uses physical objects to illustrate topics, allowing the children to handle them and explain what they mean.
· A teacher can prepare objects beforehand, coaching the children how to explain them during congregational worship.