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Greetings Keith T... and welcome! It's been pretty quiet here, as of late. I have come to the conclusion (while fellowshipping with like-minded believers here) that true fellowship in Christ is a fellowship of peers, with one Head, Jesus The Christ. I have also come to the conclusion that following Christ equals obedience. This obedience can be best summed up in these simplistic statements, "Love The Lord with all of your heart. Love others. Show it!"
And I agree, the glory goes to God alone. Be blessed, Matthew
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Glad to welcome you here! I am a "stay at home dad" who has worked with children most of my life (I am 41). I finally got married about five years ago, and my wife and I now have two children. Our daughter is three , and we lost a child to miscarriage ...just a few months ago.
My wife goes out into the "real world" while I stay at home and repair the houses we are currently living in. This house is almost ready to put back on the market, and we have another one in Pennsylvania that I still need to finish (my wife's job moved us before I was able to finish that one).
We are considering selling this one, and moving back there ...so I can finish that one, and maybe get it on the market as well.
Since we got married, we have lived in; Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, South Carolina, PA again, Florida, and now Alabama. I'm thinking we need to try a western state!
Be blessed, Matthew
-------------------- Hope with abandon, all ye who enter here!
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Hey Jeanne, Something to think about there! My great grandmother was a Cherokee Indian who married a Englishman (who lived in Arkansas). Anything left of the Cherokee Indians out your way? I have often thought of trying to research my Indian heritage, but I don't know how...
So, what's the weather like out your way during the winter? Also, is there an Inferior Colorado somewhere? I might fit in better there!
Be blessed, Matthew
-------------------- Hope with abandon, all ye who enter here!
quote:Originally posted by Matthew: My great grandmother was a Cherokee Indian who married a Englishman ...I have thought of trying to research my Indian heritage, but I don't know how...
Be blessed, Matthew
Here you go, Matthew. THAT would be where we are... at the end of the Trail of Tears. We are right near "Cherokee Country".
It is easier if your ancestor was one of those who traveled on the Trail of Tears, but I'm sure they can point you in the right direction, even if you are a "Western Cherokee" that is, the ones that split the scene with Sequoia before the catastrophe. They are in the midst of trying to get tribal recognition, so now is a strategic time to start looking into it, if you are interested. (It may seem strange that I'm writing so much about this, but since I just found out about it 2 weeks ago, and Matthew asked, I thought maybe God has his reasons for me to make the connection. )
Laurie Ann
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Hey Laurie Ann, Thanks for the really great information! I knew the majority of the recognized Cherokee live in North Carolina and Oklahoma, but I didn't know there were still some trying to get recognized.
Here is the best that I can figure it...
My grandmother died about ten or eleven years ago. She was 87.
If I subtract that ball park figure from this year, I get about 1910 as the year my grandmother was born. (I'll check all of this with my brother.)
Figuring my grandmother was born when my great-grandmother was around eighteen to twenty years of age, (she may have been quite a bit younger) my great-grandmother was born in the early eighteen nineties (around the year 1891).
From these calculations, my great-great-great-grandparents may have been the ones that waked the Trail of Tears (or didn't). The fact that my great-grandmother lived in Arkansas may also hint to the fact that they were among the group you told me about that didn't.
That being said...
I also know that my mother told me directly that my great-grandmother was not a good mother. She would leave my grandmother for weeks at a time, all alone at home, and was quite fond of staying very drunk. During my research, I have found that most "family Indian legends" talk of some vague "Indian Princess" way back in the family, but this is not the case with our family. My mother was told by her mother what my great-grandmother was really like, flaws and all. This is not the stuff legends are made of!
An interesting thing to note is, my grandmother looked nothing like an Indian. She was fair complected, and had snow white hair (from the time I can remember). When I tan, I turn reddish ...that's the only hint of Indian I have. The truth is, I'm quite "watered down" (one sixteenth I guess?).
Wonder why this is coming up now........
Be blessed, Matthew
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I have a wee bit of Choctah in me, which was a tribe that was also on the trail of tears. But I don't think there are any Cherokee reservations around here.
And yes, I am sure there are plenty of inferior towns around here that you would fit right into- he he, just kidding. Superior is a dumb name for a town if you ask me:). It was actually an old coal mining town just outside of boulder, that is now chock full of suburban track homes, complete with a costco and super target. Interestingly enough though, there is not one church building in Superior and I doubt there ever will be (land too expensive and bulding codes too tight). Many christians here think this is a terrible shame-I of course think differently .
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Choctah huh? That's cool! I've written my brother and I have gotten some very interesting information. The rumored "Indian" woman was only half Indian (he thinks), and she was one of three wives.
On my dad's side, our great grandfather looked exactly like a native American and had almost no facial hair. Back then, a lot of folks tried to sweep the Native American heritage under the rug, so the records may be intentionally lost... he gave me contact info, and I'll try and see what I can find...
No churches? Are you in heaven!?! I'm a pretty cheep guy. I like to buy houses way under market value, fix them up and then resale them. It's what I do part time. Sounds like Superior is out of my price range (which is really cheep). Oh well, the no church building thing is a real plus anyway!!!
Be blessed, Matthew
-------------------- Hope with abandon, all ye who enter here!