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My name is Gary Anderson. I want to expose the falsehoods of Protestantism that exist and expose some of those falsehoods that have been handed down to New Covenant people. It is my belief that New covenant people are in jeopardy or may not even be saved when they blindly accept these falsehoods that were codified by Augustine and continued by Luther and Calvin.If there is interest here I will continue.
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Hi Gary,
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Since you asked, I will reply with an email I sent to Bruce, a moderator of this forum. Since this generally is beyond the scope of this forum I will post it only in my introduction here. I want you to know that I view these following truths as essential to any recovery of the gospel. There is virtually no faith on the earth at this time. That is why Jesus asked the question of whether there would be any faith on the earth upon his return. This is the following statement I sent to Bruce, and I will limit this to only this thread:
Doug, here is a comprehensive explanation, if you only have what I am teaching piecemeal. Remember that Christ asked if there would be faith on the earth when He returns. It looks as though there is plenty of faith by your assessment. My assessment is that there is virtually no faith, and that that was why He asked the question in the first place. It is a prophesy that there would be little faith and the teachings below illustrate why that is true. These words below were sent to another person by email:
Well, if you are truly interested and you have no control over the financing of your forum, then I will let you know what I believe, sure. However you must realize that you have no filter for anyone calling themselves home church folks coming in with doctrines that are not appropriate.
I want you to know that it is necessary to peel away the traditions of men to really understand what the early church was teaching. I believe that immediately after there was a falling away. So there are three doctrines and one practice that are widely circulated today that are false, and are opposed to the gospel of Christ as taught by the apostles. The falling away occurred right after the apostles left the scene.
The first two doctrines have pretty much been repudiated by Reisinger, Zens and others. They are covenant theology and the newer false answer to it, dispensationalism. However the New Covenant teachers fail to teach that these doctrines are wholly against Christ and their followers will perish!
The third doctrine that is rarely repudiated by so called New Covenant teachers is the doctrine of law preaching. I believe that the New Covenant scholars of today err when they say that the law can do anything to establish any move toward Christ and the gospel. If you look at Acts chapter 2 you can see that the hearers were cut to the heart by the gospel, not by the law. Nowhere in the New Testament are the apostles teaching that the law convicts of sin. My point is that natural conscience cannot drive a person to Christ. If someone feels guilty of adultery, or another sin, that does not drive anybody to Christ because all men have a conscience at least at the beginning.
Therefore, the gospel alone convicts. Jesus said He would send the Spirit to convict the world of sin because they believe not. This has nothing to do with guilt people feel because they have transgressed law.
The next doctrine that is opposed to Christ that has been promulgated very soon after the apostles departed is the doctrine of eternal generation. Eternal generation is created by teachers who misuse the passage in Psalms about begatting the Son. We see clearly in Acts 13:32 that the fulfillment of the doctrine is actually the resurrection of Christ, not some sort of eternal generation. The idea of Calvin that Christ as to his essence is eternal but that His person has its beginning in the Father strikes at the root of the doctrine of the atonement. It results in the same error as the gnostics taught because it brings into question whether Diety suffered on the cross, which is necessary for remission of the sins of the elect.
Indeed, if Jesus is subordinated by an eternal generation then He is not truly God. I know that the creeds give lip service to His equality, but it cannot be that Christ is equal if he is begotten. It is logically impossible for Christ to be equal for one who truly believes in eternal generation regardless of the form in which that takes. Therefore, the creeds and the entire history of the Catholic and Protestant religions have been in darkness in denial of God in his fulness dying on the cross. This lesser Christ makes Protestantism and Catholicism just one big cult. It is in essence the worship of angels.
Finally, the practice of seminaries, book publishing for sale, etc, is absolutely opposed to Paul who stated in Corinthians that he was approved of God because he did not sell the gospel. He worked and lived off donations. For a man to teach at a seminary, he is getting paid a salary based upon REQUIRED contributions. This is not what Paul said was necessary for approval as a true teacher of the gospel!!!!
And of course, John Zens, John Reisinger, and others are selling what they can as often as they can, regarding what they are teaching. They say they don't make any real money, but you can be sure that they make some. And you can be sure that what they are doing is in direct violation of the command of Paul not to sell the gospel.
Well, there you have it. These revelations must be followed if the power of theearly church is to ever be seen on the earth. Jesus asked if there would be faith on the earth when he returned. Based on the standards of popular teaching, there is a lot of faith. Based on God's standards there is virtually no faith at the present time.
If you wish to pursue this conversation at any time, Bruce, feel free to do so. Gary
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The above thread was also sent to Doug. The first paragraph to Doug was not sent to Bruce. Sorry for the confusion but there is no capability to edit here.
quote:Originally posted by bgamall: The third doctrine that is rarely repudiated by so called New Covenant teachers is the doctrine of law preaching. I believe that the New Covenant scholars of today err when they say that the law can do anything to establish any move toward Christ and the gospel. If you look at Acts chapter 2 you can see that the hearers were cut to the heart by the gospel, not by the law. Nowhere in the New Testament are the apostles teaching that the law convicts of sin. My point is that natural conscience cannot drive a person to Christ. If someone feels guilty of adultery, or another sin, that does not drive anybody to Christ because all men have a conscience at least at the beginning.
Therefore, the gospel alone convicts. Jesus said He would send the Spirit to convict the world of sin because they believe not. This has nothing to do with guilt people feel because they have transgressed law.
Not only is the use of the law biblical, but it was used throughout church history to unlock the doors of revival. Much of the church today doesn’t even know it exists.
Jesus used it (Matthew 19:18-22). So did Paul (Romans 3:19,20) and James (James 2:10). Stephen used it when he preached (Acts 7:53). Peter found that it had been used to open the door to release 3,000 imprisoned souls on the Day of Pentecost.
In Acts 28:23 the Bible tells us that Paul sought to persuade his hearers "concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets."
The Bible tells us that the Law of Moses is good if it is used lawfully (1 Timothy 1:8). For what purpose was God’s Law designed? The following verses tell us: "The Law is not made for a righteous person, but...for sinners" (1 Timothy 1:9,10). It even lists the sinners for us: the disobedient, the ungodly, murderers, fornicators, homosexuals, kidnappers, liars, etc. The Law was designed primarily as an evangelistic tool. Paul wrote that he "had not known sin, but by the law" (Romans 7:7). The Law of God (the Ten Commandments) is evidently the "key of knowledge" that Jesus mentioned in Luke 11:52. He was speaking to lawyers—those who should have been teaching God’s Law so that sinners would receive the "knowledge of sin," and thus recognize their need of the Savior.
To illustrate the function of God’s Law, let’s look for a moment at civil law. Imagine if I said to you, "I’ve got some good news for you: someone has just paid a $25,000 speeding fine on your behalf."
You’d probably react by saying, "What are you talking about? That’s not good news—it doesn’t make sense. I don’t have a $25,000 speeding fine." My good news wouldn’t be good news to you; it would seem foolishness. But more than that, it would be offensive to you, because I’m insinuating you’ve broken the law when you don’t think you have.
However, if I put it this way, it may make more sense: "While you were out today, the law clocked you going 55 miles an hour through an area set aside for a blind children’s convention. There were ten clear warning signs stating that fifteen miles an hour was the maximum speed, but you went straight through at 55 miles an hour. What you did was extremely dangerous; there’s a $25,000 fine. The law was about to take its course, when someone you don’t even know stepped in and paid the fine for you. You are very fortunate."
Can you see that telling you precisely what you’ve done wrong first actually enables the good news to make sense? If I don’t clearly bring understanding that you’ve violated the law, then the good news will seem foolishness and offensive. But once you understand that you’ve broken the law, then that good news will become good news indeed.
In the same way, if I approach an impenitent sinner and say, "Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins," it will be foolishness and offensive to him. It will be foolishness because it won’t make sense. The Bible says that "the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness" (1 Corinthians 1:18). And it will be offensive because I’m insinuating he’s a sinner when he doesn’t think he is. As far as he’s concerned, there are a lot of people far worse than him. But if I take the time to follow in the footsteps of Jesus, it may make more sense. If I open up the divine Law, the Ten Commandments, and show the sinner precisely what he’s done wrong —that he has offended God by violating His Law—then when he becomes "convinced of the law as a transgressor" (James 2:9), the good news of the fine being paid will not be foolishness. It will not be offensive. It will be "the power of God unto salvation" (Romans 1:16).
With that in mind, let’s look at some of the functions of God’s Law for humanity. Romans 3:19 says, "Now we know that whatsoever things the law says, it says to them who are under the law that every mouth may be stopped and all the world may become guilty before God." So one function of God’s Law is to stop the mouth, to keep sinners from justifying themselves by saying, "There are plenty of people worse than me. I’m not a bad person, really." No, the law stops the mouth of justification and leaves, not just the Jews, but the whole world guilty before God.
In Romans 3:20 we read, "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin." So God’s Law tells us what sin is. First John 3:4 says, "Sin is transgression of the law." In Galatians 3:24 we learn that God’s Law acts as a schoolmaster to bring us to Jesus Christ that we might be justified through faith in His blood. The Law doesn’t help us; it just leaves us helpless. It doesn’t justify us; it just leaves us guilty before the judgment bar of a holy God.
Romans 2:15 Which show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
Charles Spurgeon said, "The conscience of a man, when he is really quickened and awakened by the Holy Spirit, speaks the truth. It rings the great alarm bell. And if he turns over in his bed, that great alarm bell rings out again and again, 'The wrath to come! The wrath to come! The wrath to come.'"
I notice that righteousness is everywhere commended in the new testament - and the old - as a lifestyle choice. Does not righteousness pertain to a code of conduct... which takes us back to the concept of law? Does not the concept of right and wrong - ethics - lead us to the same place? And what about holiness? Is there not a standard by which it is measured and pursued?
Yet, so often when such sentiments are expressed the accusation that one is trying to be saved by works immediately follows. No, I'm surely not attempting to work myself into heaven, I just happen to notice that obeying the laws of God causes me to love him more as well as my neighbor. Breaking God's law isn't the loving thing to do. I thank Him that he tells me how to love and respect others in specific ways via laws.
All can agree, I hope, that Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to all who believe. Some call that imputation. I also believe that where he imputes righteousness to our eternal account he will also impart it to us in daily life, little by little.
Lord, help me to be obedient lest I harm myself, others, and bring dishonor to your church and to your name.
May the Lord bless you and keep you, reader, and lead you into paths of righteousness for his name sake.
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1Ti 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; 1Ti 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 1Ti 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
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