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If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream and not make dreams your master,
If you can think and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build them up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the will which says: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the earth and everything that's in it,
And, which is more, you will be a man my son!

D Anderson
      Bristol, TN USA


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Lots of truth here about maturity but there is also lots missing.

Jesus, the sole source of all virtue, stated that without him you or I could do nothing.

Lahry
      Arizona


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Don’t Give UP!!!!!! Pray!!!!

My Lord and My God, have mercy on us and deliver us from the snare of the fowler.

My brothers and sisters, I sense an atmosphere of alarm all about us. As we watch in dismay our great nation is on full tilt and appears to be on the brink of destruction. Greed, lust, immorality has advanced its causes almost unabated. Why? Because the believers of Jesus Christ in this nation have stood by and have done nothing. It is easier to hold a tornado than to rally Christians into serious prayer.

Where oh where are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness? They are few and far between. Well, do not despair, you who do. For little is much when God is in it. One need only consider Gideon and his small band of believers. It was believe God or face certain destruction. But God and Gideon partnered to victory in spite of overwhelming numbers stacked against them.

Or consider David, who sought the Lord daily for instructions on how to win the battle. Today’s instructions will not work for tomorrows battles. God must be sought on a daily basis. If you will not take my word for it, perhaps you should consider the prophets:

Zeph 2:3 Seek the Lord [inquire for Him, inquire of Him, and require Him as the foremost necessity of your life], all you humble of the land who have acted in compliance with His revealed will and have kept His commandments; seek righteousness, seek humility [inquire for them, require them as vital]. It may be you will be hidden in the day of the Lord's anger.

Layed bare or hidden in the day of the Lord’s anger. Which will it be? Is your immorality and comfort more important than your survival? Will you repent with me and pray?

Joel 2:12-14 - Therefore also now, says the Lord, turn and keep on coming to Me with all your heart, with fasting, with weeping, and with mourning [until every hindrance is removed and the broken fellowship is restored].

13Rend your hearts and not your garments and return to the Lord, your God, for He is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and abounding in loving-kindness; and He revokes His sentence of evil [when His conditions are met].

14Who knows but what He will turn, revoke your sentence [of evil], and leave a blessing behind Him [giving you the means with which to serve Him], even a cereal or meal offering and a drink offering for the Lord, your God?

Will we simply stand by, or rather sit and lay by and let the spirit of antichrist run over our land and destroy what our brothers and sisters have given their lives to protect? It is time to kneel and pray, beloved. The hour of peril seems to be at the very door. Are you ready to watch your loved ones brutally slaughtered and do nothing to stop it. Love demands that we cry out to God. Faith demands that we cry out to God. Repent of our complacency. Repent of our disobedience. It’s time to get real serious about our personal walk with God, and the turmoil that swirls through our land. It’s time to rally the troops for battle. The battle is doubt and fear. The solution is talking to God together in faith, as a group in one accord , in fear and trembling. Oh God spare us!

That is not a cry of selfishness. It is a cry of wisdom. Oh God spare us! 2 Chron 7:14 moans through the trees in the wind, longing for a few who will repent and seek His face. Oh what turn of tide can be afforded to those who will seek the Lord on their face and impinge their faith in His mercy. Will you relent, or will YOU PRAY? 2 Chron 7:14 should be nailed to the front door of every church building, every Christian home and business. The alarm could not be more critical! God have mercy on us!

Lamenting,

Lahry

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JeffL
      Virginia U.S.A.


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(Just a note. This cafe is world-wide so many people may be confused by words such as "our great nation." I think he means America and though we do feel our nation is indeed great that does not detract from other nations being equally great or greater. It is just a patriots viewpoint.)

Does anyone feel that this financial crisis is causing men's hearts to fail them with fear? Or, should we wait for even greater troubles? I heard about one very rich man who killed himself while sitting in his Bentley. Perhaps his status changed from Billionaire to 900 Millionaire overnight and that was too much for him to handle. Seriously, just the value of the car alone could have kept me going for several years!

Regarding the poem. Much of it seems to be derived from scripture. Was Kipling Christian? Does anyone know? Many an atheist has extolled the power and merits of God's law in restraining human behavior. Some have desired for all to embrace them. (See Ravi Zacharias regarding Neitzsche and Atheism.)

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