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Cynthia
 


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What a wonderful relief to find a couple of posts acknowledging the seventh day Sabbath. Its so obvious, yet such a touchy issue with so many. With there being only two weekend days to get yard jobs done in, I feel it would be best for my family if we kept the Sabbath as a rest day and also kept it holy - which goes along nicely with worship. What will be interesting is seeing how God draws others into our fellowship who understand this as well! For now I feel we must keep Sunday lest we be looked upon as totally radical and be so misunderstood that others avoid our fellowship. Isn't that a real shame!! It just shows how far off track things have gotten.
Brenda T
 


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Cynthia....please just keep reading about the Sabbath. The LORD will lead you as to how to stop keeping Sunday. I, too, was in the same situation. I praise GOD that he led me to the Light.
melvin
 


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old testament sabboth was given to the jews only. when Jesus died rose and assended the church was established.(christianity) we celebrate sunday as the day of the week to meet together. we call this our Lord's day. the bible commands the saints to meet and worship together. so i see no conflict in any of this. Jesus rose from the dead on sunday so we find it ok to worship Him on the same day.
why try to make this a legalistic issue. your roll as a christian is only two things. WORSHIP GOD OR THE GODHEAD. ANDDDDDD. WIN SOULS. its all about souls, not about which day of the week. THE DICIPLES MET IN THEIR CHURCHES ON SUNDAY. THEY ALSO COMMANDED THAT YOU GET ROOTED IN A PLACE OF WORSHIP. GROW AND PAY YOUR TITHES. MOST (CHRISTIANS) THAT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WORSHIP ON THE LORDS DAY IN A STRUCTURED SERVICE. THE UNDERLYING PROBLEM IS USUSLLY ABOUT THEIR MONEY. OTHERWORDS STEWARDSHIP OF WHAT BELONGS TO YOU. YOU WANT A WAY OUT OF BEING ACCOUNTABLE TO ANYONE OR GOD.

Chris
 


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Melvin,

Unfortunately your post comes from a great misunderstanding of history.

The beginning of Christianity was not when Christ died, rose, and ascended. Christ was the fulfillment of all Hebrew scripture. The "body" of believers that was founded on the day of Pentacost was called "The Way" for they were following the "way" of God which was summed up in the person and work of Christ.

Jesus did not rise on a Sunday...if you want to really be technical about it, he rose at the end of the Sabbath, which is Saturday evening at sundown. Just because "we find it OK to worship him on the same day" doesn't necessarily make it right. We must remember that our approval doesn't necessarily "cannonize" things in God's mind.

You said that we shouldn't try to make this a legalistic issue, but then you say that the disciples met in their churches on Sunday and that they were commanded to get rooted in a place of worship, grow, and pay tithes....Well, I challenge you to find that anywhere in Scripture.

Actually, if you look at the book of Acts, which is the account of the 1st century church, it says that they met DAILY. Read that in the end of Acts 2. It says that the people continued in the Apostles Doctrine (which was Torah Law- 1st 5 books of the Old Testament), the breaking of bread ("family" meals and communion), fellowship (having all things in common), and prayer. It says that they did this DAILY.

Learning to tithe? What were they tithing to? Were they tithing to the Apostle of the Ages to get the "Apostle Peter's Seminary" built, completely furnished with great and grand fountains and a huge enough parking lot to accomodate every member's mule?

We need to drop this whole idea about "the way things ought to be." We meet on Sunday because that is when Constantine declared to be the day of worship. He took the temples of the pagan gods and gave them over to the Catholic church when he declared Christianity to be the new State Religion.
Did you know that the term "Lord's Day" is only used 1 time in the Bible? Revelation 1:10.

Why did they call the Sabbath the "Lord's Day?" Well, look back to the Law in Exodus, God said that you shall have a day set aside FOR ME. The Sabbath belonged to GOD. That is why it was called "The Lord's Day." Not because Jesus rose on a Sunday.

Unfortunately, we've been told too long by "the church" how we should do things. Our traditions have long been based on someones faulty interpretation of a certain passage of Scripture that someone else accepted it and then everyone after them.

Cynthia, Brenda,

Meet whenever you want. The Sabbath is a day of rest. God seeks those who will worship him in spirit and in truth. We should do that every day.


Steve Caird
 


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I let out a little chuckle when I read the bit about "tithing for mule parking," etc. Where do you live? write an e-mail if you feel like it: scaird@nmu.edu .
acts10
 


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I agree with the paganistic traditions that brought about sun-day
worship. You might see that it was the sun that was worshipped
by the creators of the "physical" church . Rome put together the
church you see today . The true church didn't dissolve but went
into the secret worship .emerging from time to time -publicly-
throughout the ages since its formation . You don't really think
that the institution called church is really the true church
do you ? Satan is the father of lies .... the master of deception.
He created the false church to imitate what God began ....so he
could ultimately be worshipped . He doesn't care if he is worshipped
willingly or unwittingly . This is the reason it is written :
come out of her "my people" . search the history and you will see
the lie and hear the great cry : Wake up ! those who slumber .

Steve
 


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All,

Interesting that Paul addressed this issue in Acts 14. His theme in those paragraphs is that not all believers have the same convictions. "One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers all days alike." I don't have to recite the whole passage, Paul is indicating that convictions about lifestyle issues are matters of conscience between the disciple and the Master and that making judgements about others who don't share your convictions. This leads to a violation of the desire of Yashua that all His people remain united in His love. When we make unnecessary divisions of the Body of Christ based on matters of personal conviction (like Sabbath worship, meat offered to idols) Paul calls our faith weak. He also tells us who may have what he calls Strong Faith, not to pick on those who are weak in faith. Paul's desire is that Love, unity and purity of heart be our main goals, not finding new ways to find quick fixes in our lives by inventing rules which, as Stephen, the martyr, said neither the jews of his day nor their fathers could keep perfectly.

Steve


Jonathan
 


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YAY!!!
the seventh day is such a blessing to have. it took me a while to get it but sure enough, as He always does, He showed me the right door and i opened it wide. i realized that yeshua was a jew and always was; not to mention, that in the new testament it says that we are to be Christ(yeshua) like, and if we love Him that we will keep His commands. im glad to see that this is being shared in such a calm and gentle way instead of a "you are wrong and i am right" kind of way. so ya, just take a look this gift YHVH has given us without any infuence, such as the church, and He will show you the way. just read and open your heart to his word and he will work in you.

martokus
      Norfolk, VA


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Friends,
As I mentioned in other forums, where do the apostles clearly instruct any followers of Jesus the Messiah to observe a special day for any reason at all?

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martokus

JeffL
      Virginia U.S.A.


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Hello Martokus,

We have many expressions about leadership. One of which is

  • Actions speak louder than words

Did Jesus and the Apostles teach us to keep the Sabbath by their actions?

  • Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
  • Acts 17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

But why the question? Are you opposed to keeping a whole day just for the Lord? Or, are you opposed to keeping the 7th day? Do you support the 1st day as the Lord's day? If so, why? Is there a command for us to keep the 1st day? Was the 7th day abrogated?

   

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