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Since the 10th of june 05, god the father sanctified me and gave me this message- the day of lord has arrived, the night of fear is upon us. please
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k_dianel
      Florida


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That wouldn't surprise me at all!!!!!!!!!!!

Kim

JeffL
      Virginia U.S.A.


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Hi Mick,

I am a bit skeptical of your message. Could you help me understand it? When you say, "the day of the lord," what day are you referring to? Christ 2nd coming or the judgment, or what?

Also, I read the website but didn't discover the significance of June 10th. Are you able to divulge that event?

Could you explain 2 Thes 2 in light of your statement? Since the revelation of the man of sin must precede the "day of the Lord," I would expect that with your prophecy the identify of this being should also be known.

Thanks. Trying to be a good Berean.

k_dianel
      Florida


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I knew two brothers, who said they were angels, say the tribulation started a year and a half ago.

Well, what ever it is? It does seem like a lot of stuff is going on right now, it's crazy!!!! Do you know what I learned just surfing around the internet.

1)Israel has given 100% permission to search for the lost ark of the covenant as of May 2005, I think this very interesting!
2)EU had it's summit on the 16 and 17th of this month, what a mess they have, all nations calling off the voting on the EU constitution. I can't imagine how this is going to effect things! It in itself could be their crisis or perhaps they will actually pluck up France, the Netherlands, and whoever of the orginal 10 nations that vote against the constitution is yet to be seen. Sounds like to me it is getting close to the 3 kings being plucked up anyway you see it. After that there's only the little horn left and that's the antichrist
3)WEU passed Recommendation 666 five years ago, saying in case of a crisis there is this office that can take over the EU if a marshall law is like declared

And actually, Jeff (I believe you're the one that is called Jeff), I don't mean to be argumentative. But I do think that it is the "day of Christ" not "day of the Lord" in 2 Thess. 2:2. It might mean the same thing.

So it does seem like a lot of happened in the last month to me, most definitely!!!!

Kim

JeffL
      Virginia U.S.A.


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Hi Kim and Mick,

Mick, are you still there?

Kim, you made some comments I want to respond to. Maybe you already heard these things but have forgotten. But, if by chance you have never heard them then I ask you to consider them now.

You stated: "Well, what ever it is? It does seem like a lot of stuff is going on right now, it's crazy!!!! Do you know what I learned just surfing around the internet."

Yes, I agree! But this is not that great tribulation spoken of by Jesus. "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be."

You wrote: "1)Israel has given 100% permission to search for the lost ark of the covenant as of May 2005, I think this very interesting!"

That may be true but maybe they will never find it. There is an ark of the testament in heaven. Perhaps that is all that we will ever find. "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail." Revelation 11:19


You wrote: "2)EU had it's summit on the 16 and 17th of this month, what a mess they have, all nations calling off the voting on the EU constitution. I can't imagine how this is going to effect things! It in itself could be their crisis or perhaps they will actually pluck up France, the Netherlands, and whoever of the orginal 10 nations that vote against the constitution is yet to be seen. Sounds like to me it is getting close to the 3 kings being plucked up anyway you see it. After that there's only the little horn left and that's the antichrist."

Yes, what a mess. I thought Daniel pretty much precluded Europe becoming united before Christ's return. Perhaps they are the ten kings in Revelation who reign with the beast for an hour.

But as far as your reference to plucking up three nations, if that is in reference to Daniel 7 then, surely that has already been fulfilled at the time appointed. It is an historically documented fact that the fourth beast (nation) was Rome which ruled from about 168 B.C. until its fall in 476 A.D. Notice, it was not overthrown by another nation. It crumbled from within with the emporer giving up his seat in Rome to the Bishop of Rome. Later, Justinian II codified the law making it official with civil backing. This act, I believe, was instrumental in the establishment of the Papacy officially giving the Bishop of Rome his seat, power, and authority. This is the rise of the Little Horn that had a man's vision (eyes) and spoke great (blasphemous) words purporting to speak for God and calling himself God on earth. Justinian sent General Belassarius to conquer three nations who had particulary beseiged the City of Rome and killed the emporer of Rome. These three nations were effectively plucked up because there lineage ends around that period.

You wrote: "3)WEU passed Recommendation 666 five years ago, saying in case of a crisis there is this office that can take over the EU if a marshall law is like declared."

I have no reason to doubt this but can assure you it is not the mark of the beast nor the number referred to in Revelation. Scripture tells us to "count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." I want you to notice that the number 666 is the number of a man and it must be counted. It is not the number of a resolution nor does it appear that it will be in the form of three sixes as we typically portray it. Rather, we must count the number and in that counting we should arive at the sum of 666. One interesting note is that many Protestant groups have in the past found the Pope's name on his triple mitre to numerically add up to 666 exactly, if you count the Roman numerals in that name. Remember, this is just one identifying mark of the beast in question. Since it is scripture, all the identifying marks must point to the same beast power.

I do believe that the great tribulation is very close at hand. But, given the greatness of that tribulation, I don't think it is here yet. I believe that tribulation will see the true church in great distress and persecuted--unless you want to admit that the true church has no body in America, since we are not undergoing persecution as other Christians in countries such as India, China, etc.

Well, I hope this has been instructive without being offensive.

k_dianel
      Florida


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Jeff,

It might very well be possible that the church in America indeed has no body according from what I saw from the Lord. It wouldn't surprise me at all!!!!

k_dianel

   

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