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Clay Adams
 


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A case in point, made by Wolfgang Simson, is the different reproduction patterns of elephants and rabbits:

Elephants are only fertile four times a year
Rabbits are practically continuously fertile

Elephants produce only one baby per pregnancy
Rabbits produce average of seven babies per pregnancy

Elephants: 22 month gestation period
Rabbitts: 1 month gestation period

Elephants: sexual maturity: 18 years
Rabbits: sexual maturity: 4 months

Elephant population growth in 3 years from 2 to 3
Rabbit population growth in 3 years from 2 to 476 million


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Hi. I was just reading your message, and was wondering what the relationship between rabbits, elephants, and the home church is. My email address is ferngaz@hotmail.com if you want to get back to me.
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Hey! I was wondering the same thing Fern! It seems to me that we ought to let the HOly Spirit take care of the multiplying of animals AND housechurches anyway. Our job is to get the Good News about Jesus out and let the Spirit do the rest--
D Anderson
      Bristol, TN USA


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Yes, it is our job to get the good news out. Have we really done it? Some in Paul's day hadn't for which they were rebuked:

1 Cor. 15:34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to YOUR shame.

Notice that Paul didn't blame the Holy Spirit in the above situation. Obviously, he would have been encouraged to see churches multiply for which he would have given God the glory.

Some plant, some water, God gives the increase.

keytorevival
      Burnet, TX


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Interesting word. I just began working for a small ministry in a small town. The main word is "multiplication." In other words, the director of the ministry doesn't want to use addition for revival work; he wants multiplication.
Benoit17
      Edmonton, Canada


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serve says: WHAT DOES EVOLUTION HAVE TO DO WITH cHRIST JESUS.
When a word is used where it's meaning remains connected with the Word being made flesh, then we get settled where confusion vanishes in the fulness of all in all.
Remove any word out of the connecting Spirit of the Word being made flesh, and the consequenses can range from sillyness or innocent looking deviations that lead into vain pursuit, all the way to a curse of the most intense resolve and unlimited results of darkness's damages.
Leave evolution within what God means with it and there is no need to fight the wrong meaning because the real one is being revealed and made flesh for he/she who feeds on the Bread of Life.
Love and respect are words that tend to lead a long way to hell, when their meanings are not left in the meaning of the Spirit Who makes the Word to become flesh in our lives.
Here is how I posted twice this week in a discussion on the EU Knowledgeboard; this is where 13,000 members of the governments of the EU and the private sector industries are seeking for ways to collaborate openly on the Internet. I joined them last year in May and sought to establish my presence as servant of the Lord who seeks the integrity of sanctity as a stay-at-home-dad. The following is pasted from: http://www.knowledgeboard.com/item/2708

Can we mean business with love?

Dear ...,

I love you for daring to push love forward against a past ruled by the complicity of ignorance and indifference known as business and government. When it comes science and power, business and governments can brag a whole lot, but not when it comes to love.
There is someone who is well known to the members of the EU Knowledgeboard and who has been asking, pleading, showing and demonstrating since 1976 that businees must account for its investment in people first, not machines, if we are going to avoid self-destruction.
Are we here to build the momentum so that we get to get on with love as the priority of all priorities? If that were the case, then that would certainly ignite the wik to the sort of paradigm shift that keeps being talked about so much for so long.
That is why I work on the Internet as a stay-at-home-dad-citizen-voter.
If you are looking for a track record of thoughts that I've contributed here on the EU Knowledgeboard, you can go to the bottom of the page at: http://www.knowledgeboard.com/whoswho/7464/11471.
Love and truth produce the integrity of sanctity. The only parts of business that cannot make room for such basic human value are the businesses that humanity does not need. Shall we begin to elaborate and to develop the strategies to convert the time and energy that are going into these businesses? We have tools; do we have the heart and spirit for it?


Love needs truth

Love needs to be embodied in truth and authenticity so as to break free from the perpetuation of being polite and respectful while what's wrong gets to be ignored.
The respect that can be define to be of service, is in the first contact between strangers. Love takes us from stranger to family and respect safeguards the movement of love until truth and authenticity are released and free in the presence and dynamics of love.
But there is a danger to insist on respect alone.
Respect and politeness are the mechanics of "synthetic relating" that are in place by the peer systems of survival necessities. This synthetic relating runs on the pricinples of the jungle law, in the subliminal handling of human behavior, historically inherited. That kind of respect generates the personal and local masks of deceit and evil that may come to be expose in full sight from micro to macro, as we carry on this conversation all the way to where love and truth can reveal its simplicity for us all to experience.
The distance that gets to be maintained by the forces of such respect also causes the constant civil obligation for our entire existance to get swallowed up to maintain all the social systems and infrastructures in place to insure the enforcements of law and order, of our contracts and businesses, all signed politely, with respect and keeping us all from ever having to look at our disapointing history of learning very little from past and present history.
The limits of existantial fears, of ignorance and of indifference are what need the synthetic culture of respect and politeness to go on, coupled to a peer power structure of command and control, which ends up repeating all the cycles of Empires decays. Those cycles repeat themselves with renewed versions of the "brown nose" syndrome of favors, kickbacks, secrecy and codes of silence as opposed to the educated and inspired empowerement of one another's genuine love and truth provisions.
The demands to maintain respect without pressing on for love and truth serve to accomodate the comforts of sef-righteousness and to maintain distance between neighbours with systematic legal trust, whereas love is home for authenticity, liberty, growth and closeness of all in the integrity of sanctity.
Especially because of our leading material position, the Western democracies, business and globalization need to choose between accomodating such masks of the past, for all cultures, or to get on with growing the culture of love and authenticity that transcends our differences, from the top to the underground populations and back from the underground to the top with songs and dances. This is the apprenticeship to grow free from under the personal, cultural and legal limits of peer ignorance of indifference. These limits that are now showing as the entity of terror-anti-terror, are multiplying out of control at all levels of societal fabrics, each one with their own versions of respect that demand, and not always politely, to be respected.
When love is alive, respect does not need to be called for, as it is one of many many many other flavours of the Spirit of love and truth, Who draws individuals and collectivities in the high-trust flow of wisdom and knowledge management...

Dear Father in heaven, Your greatness fills Christ-Jesus Your Son with all in all. Dear Holy Spirit make us aware of our Father's greatness and of our belonging to His nature because of Your presence and work to impart eternal life to each one's inner most being.
Give us the rest that allows You to settle in our midst with the obediance of Jesus to carry us through to maturity. In doing so, touch the heart and intelligence of all who work at the unity of humanity. Many have come to resent the name of Jesus because of how badly Your name has been handled over the centuries.
Gives us the wisdom and discernment of Your glory at all time dear Lord, so that we may shine forth the life of Christ as we speak the name of Jesus and You spread to reach all such Internet communities like the EU Knowledgeboard and Taking It Global and Minciu Sodas and all of the others who seek to make the world a better place.
Go on ruling over all governments so as to declare Your dominion over all the earth. Guide humanity away from Your enemy's deceit and those who will not, keep them from decision-making positions over Your people...in Christ-Jesus name and Spirit I pray...amen to Your Yes...

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...all blessings be with us all...
Benoit Couture

   

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