House Church Talk - Pattern or simply an adaptation?

cliffsilliman at juno.com cliffsilliman at juno.com
Mon Jan 26 22:39:54 EST 2004


I am asking for their sources for that belief. Frank source is Gene
Edwards, but I do not believe that they are historical accurate. Note the
comments from David that you sent along.

Cliff
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:53:21 -0500 "R.L. Johnson"
<rjohnson at wise.k12.va.us> writes:
> I took this information from x?x's "Pagan Christianity."   I 
> have
> also heard it expressed in Seminary classes from the Southern 
> Baptist
> Convention.
> 
> RJ
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:House Church Talk -bounces at housechurch.org]On Behalf Of David Miller
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 3:11 PM
> To: 'House Church Talk'
> Subject: RE: House Church Talk -  Pattern or simply an adaptation?
> 
> 
> Cliff wrote:
> > Rick, Your historical fact about the church not meeting
> > in buildings until 340 are you sure?
> 
> Hi Cliff. This is common misinformation spread among home church
> enthusiasts, but it really is an erroneous assertion based upon the 
> fact
> that Constantine began building churches at an enormous rate that 
> was
> unprecedented before that time.  However, the basic assumption is
> faulty.  An increase in church building activities and making 
> church
> buildings more elaborate does not mean that such never existed at 
> all
> before that time.
> 
> The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Second Series, Volume 14, page 
> 307,
> Canon 24 "Excursus on the Minor Orders of the Early Church," speaks
> about special church buildings existing as early as the second 
> century.
> It speaks of minister assistants who were forerunners of the 
> special
> door keepers being necessary and even being considered "holy" along 
> with
> the church buildings since about 225 A.D.
> 
> In the Scriptures, we see that the earliest believers continued 
> within
> the existing religious institutional system of the Jews, meeting in 
> the
> Temple and also in the synagogues as well as from house to house.  
> Acts
> 19:8-10 gives a succinct picture of how believers began separating 
> from
> the Jewish system under Paul's direction.  Notice how here in 
> Ephesus,
> Paul and other believers met for three months in the synagogue, then
> Paul divided the believers from there and they met in the school of
> Tyrannus for the next two years.
> 
> "And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of 
> three
> months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom 
> of
> God. But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil 
> of
> that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated 
> the
> disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus. And this
> continued by the space of two years; so that all they which dwelt 
> in
> Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both Jews and Greeks." (Acts
> 19:8-10 KJV)
> 
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
> 
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