House Church Talk - Re: Baptisms and Administrations
bwood4d at hotmail.com
Sat Mar 6 23:27:20 EST 2004
I'm a little puzzled! You made a statement re. other peoples only being
able to have a relationship with God through Israel. I questioned your
statement (not believing that it is true at all) and you ask me to help you
to prove YOUR STATEMENT which I have brought into question!!! If you don't
know why you made it in the first place, why not just say so and drop it
until you know for sure if it is so???
Re. Job, it has been my understanding that he lived roughly around the time
of Israel's Exodus from Egypt, which puts him long after Israel became a
nation! The same with Cyrus and the Magi!
I asked the following question and you have not answered it at all!
"What specificly do YOU see about John's ministry and baptism under the old
covenant, the Lord's disciples baptizing people under the old covenant and
the Lord Jesus' commission to baptize disciples under the new covenant that
relates to the present day practice of baptizing believers in water??"
Why have you chosen to ignore it???
Brother I also asked that if your doctrine was truly a scriptural one to
simply state it in the words of scripture or acknowledge that it is not a
scriptural doctrine. Your response was, "Bruce, This we will get to in
course. I am not intending to frustrate here, it is just that I want to try
to organise our presuppositions so that semantical arguments don't derail
the discussion. (Not to mention I am deliberate also.)"
Brother, I have not sensed any "organization of presuppositions" here at
all!!! Have you??? I am simply asking for the scriptural statement(s) of
your doctrine!! The very reason why I am challenging it is because I do
not see it as a scriptural doctrine whatsoever! I have no idea why you are
beating around the bush, nor do I have any idea what bush you are beating
around!!! Let's get down to the basics of "What saith the scripture?"!!
Maybe you don't even agree with me that all scriptural doctrines are stated
in words of scripture. If so, please say so, tell me why and site some
examples of other "scriptural doctines" which are not stated in words of
scripture. But, if you do believe that scriptural doctrines ARE stated in
words of scripture, then just show me the scriptural statement(s) and let
scripture convince me.
Your brother in Christ,
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