House Church Talk - Passion --> in remembrance of Me
david at housechurch.org
Tue Mar 9 18:15:24 EST 2004
>David, with regards to the link you provided about remarks on this film.
>You said you hadn't listened yet? I would tell you not to bother. It is
>nothing but anti-Catholicism, making mountains out of molehills, and full of
>weak arguments. The speaker says that the Bible doesn't talk much about the
>suffering and therefore believes it is disproportional to make an entire
>movie filled with it. Well, how much more could the Bible say than it does?
>It describes what happens, but this is one area where a picture is worth a
>thousand words. Oh people, we CAN NEVER THINK TOO MUCH OF
>WHAT HE SUFFERED.
Thank you, Janet M, for the review - and that with laser sharp accuracy.
Way to go.
Your line about never thinking too much of Jesus and his sufferings is
truly of divine origin, think I. Is every thought to be brought captive
to the Christ? Are we to pray without ceasing? Are we to rejoice always
in the Lord? Are we to give thanks to Him in everything? God truly has a
very comprehensive plan for our thought-lives - a Jesus-centered one.
One of the most fascinating questions, to me, is whether our Saviour, in
saying the words "as oft as you do this, do it in memory of me" is
speaking of a ceremony OR merely referring to the simple act of eating
and drinking (which really can be done in remembrance of his sufferings
and death at anytime). The latter view would certainly give new meaning
to the words "as oft as ye do this." If Jesus were referring to a
ceremony, he would not have said "as oft as you do this" (i.e. a
ceremony), do it in remembrance of me" (another ceremony) for such a
statement would have been entirely redundant.
1 Cor. 11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had
supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, AS
OFT AS YE DRINK IT, in remembrance of me.
If the unusual view of "every meal as a reminder" is sound, it would
explain why, when we come to the book of Acts, there is no mention of a
sacrament known as the Lord's supper (I am aware that the phrase "Lord's
supper" is used elsewhere but not as a proper name.). All were Lord's
suppers whether private or public! Imo. For more on this totally radical
idea, check out:
Is He not the Bread of life? Is He not the Water of life? Could not the
daily intake of food and drink remind us that spiritual nourishment comes
only from Him? I need not remind you that some branches of the church
have given the "Eucharist" an aura of magic. Most institutional churches
regard it as the main thing that they can use to "excommunicate" the
erring. Most require an administrator lest layman corrupt the "elements."
Some "priests" celebrate it in the presence of onlookers. Some use Latin.
Even Reformers clashed over it. Surely, something is amiss. And surely,
it was never meant to have been a micro-meal.
John 6:53-56 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have
no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath
eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth
my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
Might not our daily bread and drink (as well as our corporate church
meals, of course) symbolize these very words or.... am I out to lunch?
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