House Church Talk - speaking
spiritfilledhome at juno.com
Fri May 14 19:43:16 EDT 2004
Hey Everyone! God bless you!
Why is it that sincere believers hotly disagree? We live in a fallen
world, eh? All of us are groping for a God whose heart and mind are much
bigger than ours. It's a great opportunity to exercise genuine love, the
most important thing.
The bottom line isn't how well can you intellectually prove your
conviction from your ability to weave Bible verses together. We sometimes
hold tenaciously to many of our convictions out of fear of experiencing
wrong consequences. But sometimes doctrinal error isn't as serious as
The real bottom line is, does it work in everyday life and produce the
character of Christ in our secret thoughts, family life, and business
Running to Him,
Phillip & Mary Cohen
spiritfilledhome at juno.com
God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 1 John 1:5
On Fri, 14 May 2004 11:04:15 -0400 "Tim Poole" <pooletim at hotmail.com>
> You said,
> "I would respectfully ask you to show any evidence from the word
> of God that the Lord desires us to view the matter of the sisters
> remaining silent in the assembly meetings in such derogatory terms,
> as a
> terrible and unnecessary form of "bondage.""
> In Response,
> Galations 3:28 There is not Male or Female, For you are ALL ONE in
> Is this in practice or is this just a theory?
> 1Cor.14:34 says" Women be silent as the LAW says." Have you noticed
> any laws
> in our culture that demands this?
> I see many that find it difficult to balance cultural practices with
> life of the Spirit.
> John 16:13 Says "The Spirit will guide you into all truth." If your
> view of
> the bible is to be just a book of rules, then you are in violation
> guilty of the whole thing. I have struggled with perfectionism and
> understand your perspective. I have realized that God is only
> interested in
> HIS perfection and not my own.
> You should consider the Muslim world and ask yourself if this is
> what you
> think God desires. This "praiseworthy" slavery of women is what they
> are all
> In my opinion, You have removed yourself from this freedom in the
> Spirit and
> again returning to bondage.Gal. 2:4 says FALSE brothers are trying
> to make
> us slaves after being set free in Christ. Gal. 5:1 warns not to
> yourselves to be burdened again by external bondage.WARNING!!! IF
> YOU DO ,
> THEN CHRIST WILL NOT BE OF NO VALUE.
> You should try the muslims or the Jews if you want to follow a
> Colossians 2:14 Says Christ has canceled the written code.Gal 3:10
> says All
> who rely on the law are cursed. I would encourage you to know his
> righteousness and his grace because without it we are all cursed.
> Christ, Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jesusislord343 at juno.com>
> To: <House Church Talk at housechurch.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: House Church Talk - speaking
> > On Thu, 13 May 2004 08:32:38 -0400 "TIM POOLE"
> <pooletim at hotmail.com>
> > writes:
> > > I have to agree with you on this Clair. Bondage is alive and
> well, its
> > just that some chains have hc written on them.
> > Dear Tim,
> > Greetings in Christ's holy name! I certainly understand your
> > However, I would respectfully ask you to show any evidence from
> the word
> > of God that the Lord desires us to view the matter of the sisters
> > remaining silent in the assembly meetings in such derogatory
> terms, as a
> > terrible and unnecessary form of "bondage." Have you not been
> > against this portion of the word of God by those who have
> > characterized it?
> > Conversely, consider also that in the biblical sense of the word,
> > "bondage" is indeed a praiseworthy thing. We who have been
> > made alive in Christ are made thus as "slaves of righteousness"
> > "slaves of God" (Rom. 6:18, 22).
> > For a woman to joyfully and voluntarily be submissive (I Cor.
> 14:34) and
> > so remain silent in the assembly times is then one of these
> examples of
> > Spirit-worked bondage to Christ: "...Just as the church is subject
> > Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything"
> > 5:24).
> > It is a powerful picture of restraint, just as our Lord Jesus did
> > please Himself, but was submissive even "to the point of death"
> > 2:8). And it is "in the same way" exactly, as Christ's own
> > example of submission (I Pet. 2:21-25), that wives are then
> commanded to
> > be submissive (3:1). So, consider that our Lord may be teaching
> us a
> > very important spiritual lesson in strictly commanding His
> daughters to
> > remain silent at one point in time in their lives.
> > Grace, peace, and love,
> > Glenn
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