House Church Talk - inclination toward ceremonial

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Bruce, 
Following is Dan's post, as you referred to.

Grace to you,
Glenn S.
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 23:23:38 -0400 "Dan Beaty" <dlbeaty at copper.net>
writes:
> Brad,
> 
> Why do you think that Jesus established the ceremony of water 
> baptism? I
> know of some brothers who emphasize as you do that all we really 
> need to do
> is be "led by the Spirit." These have no use at all for the literal
> observance of this ritual. Don't get me wrong, I agree totally with 
> your
> reference to Galatians 5, but does this truth really negate the 
> value of
> practices such as water baptism?
> 
> Perhaps in some minds even water baptism, because it is ceremonial, 
> must
> take our focus further away from God. Certainly it has for some. But 
> OTOH,
> some of us see Him more clearly and even sense His presence in this 
> and
> other NT practices.
> 
> That is not to say that I am a ritual-aholic. I just want to 
> acknowledge
> that the Lord Himself has been known to observe customs and 
> traditions. It
> was not because He was "under the law" that He normally attended 
> synogogue
> on the Sabbath, but because "it was His custom." (Luke 4:16).
> 
> Dan Beaty
> www.livingtruth.com
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brad Cork" <brad at peoplecare.org.au>
> To: <House Church Talk  at housechurch.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 1:20 AM
> Subject: Re: House Church Talk -  inclination toward ceremonial
> 
> 
> David Anderson wrote:
> 
> >     Greetings from the South
> >
> >John 13:14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; 
> ye
> >also ought to wash one another¹s feet.
> >
> >Was our Lord telling us to do menial tasks for one another or was 
> this
> >the institution of the "ceremony of foot washing?" What in modern
> >society, with it's dirt and mud-free roadways, might be the 
> equivalent of
> >foot-washing?
> >
> >     David Anderson
> >
> >
> >
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> Another thought... Jesus is not as concerned with what we do as he 
> is
> with what we are... We tend to try and create ceremonies and rules 
> to
> show us how we ought to live but these take our focus further away 
> from
> God... when in reality God wants us to walk in the Spirit.. to be
> focussed on him... if we do that we will then automatically fulfil 
> all
> the requirements of the law... I think we have it back the front...
> let's follow Paul's example in Galatians 5:16 and keep in step with 
> the
> spirit for then we will truly know God and by consequence will also
> fulfil the requirements of the law.
> 
> Have a great day,
> Brad
> 
> "As many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are the sons of God" 
> -
> Romans 8:14
> 
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