House Church Talk - Re: House Church Talk Digest, Vol 3, Issue 214

[Lee Underwood]

You know I never did care for someone who "knew" something about something 
but never really had no discernment. But I am going to go out on a limb 
here ...

It seems Phillip that you are just trying to get closer to Jesus in this 
cold, dying world and the enemy is coming at you hard. I may be wrong. It 
wouldn't be the first time. We are all trying to stay close to Him. It 
really is a cold cruel world but the Lord said to have hope, He overcame 
the world.

Living in a country that is based on physical things - touching feeling - 
makes it hard to grab on to the spiritual. But that is what we must do. We 
must remember who Jesus is and who we are.

Phillip, I too do not understand what you mean by "mob spirit". If that 
means brothers and sisters reaching out to help another brother then I say, 
"let there be more of this 'mob spirit'". If we didn't care we would keep 
this dialog up.

You know Phillip, three months ago I left a group of people, a "church", 
that I had attended for 12 years. I was involved in a leadership position, 
I had worked for them full-time for the past two years. I saw the power of 
the Lord in the midst of that body ... but ... somewhere along the line 
most of the people just got comfortable in their lives and didn't want to 
draw close to the Lord. They spoke more about "the church" they belonged to 
more than about the Lord. I started to seek the Lord about 1.5 years ago 
regarding it. Finally, He drew me out. He gathered me together with a few 
other brothers and sisters and I have drawn so close to Him in the past few 
months. Even now, I feel sorrow at what was; the worship and attitude of 
service to the Lord was so great. Now ... in three months, out of 120 
people, 3 have called and two others have written. They are afraid of what 
I have entered into ... a one-to-one relationship with Jesus, the 
resurrected Lord and King. No longer do I depend on someone else for that 
relationship. It is up to me. Even now, as I write this, I can feel His 
presence stirring in me. (Glory to the mighty King!)

Phillip, I urge you to not take these words - mine and those of the other 
brothers and sisters - and think that they are an attack against you. This 
is what the body of Messiah is all about. Encouraging each other, helping 
each other to stand strong. Do you know why Jesus sent the disciples out by 
twos? So they would have someone else to strengthen them and encourage 
them. Because Jesus knows we long for physical contact. Why do you think 
this e-mail list exists? For the past few months I have drawn strength from 
reading about other brothers and sisters who have experienced the exact 
same thing I have. I have shared them with a few others who left that local 
church with me and they too are also amazed.

I pray that you take this time and just cry out to Him. He is waiting ....

With love, your brother,

Lee



At 7/23/04 09:51 PM, DanG wrote:
>Phillip Cohen wrote:
> > I won't be able to reply for a couple of days.
> >
> > No, I'm not derailed or deceived. Just get quiet and ask God to show you
> > what I'm asking for.
> >
> > Got a little bit of mob spirit here on this list right now.
> >
> > Blessings,
> > Phillip
>
>Perhaps you could explain the "mob spirit" comment?  I suspected you
>might feel that way.  Please don't feel that way.  Does the Bible call
>us a body? of believers in Jesus Christ our Lord?  If so, then we
>might feel more like there is a sore finger which is crying for
>attention.  Yes, we stuck the finger under a hammer when we shouldn't
>have, and we smashed it quite well, and it hurts.  We don't just sit
>and look at it and wait for another hammer appearance.  We apply
>whatever healing help we can - not hot water, but ice water.  So, you
>feel like we are applying hot water, perhaps, and that is the "mob
>spirit"?
>
>Oh well, I guess we will let the finger throb and hurt some more...
>Somehow that doesn't feel well, but if that is the way it shall be, it
>shall be...
>Tell us more if/when, help us understand better what is happening.  I
>for one feel out of the loop in terms of understanding.  Words have
>been said by you, and I can assume I know what you are speaking about,
>but I suspect I do not understand what you are driving at - I would
>like better understanding about what you are speaking about, if/when,
>please.
>Thanks for hanging with the mobsters ;-)
>Dan ChicagoArea
>
>
>

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