House Church Talk - God good to 9 generations- what about generationalcurses?

[Dan Beaty]

Scott,

Thanks for sharing your experiences. Your interpretation makes sense to me.
Some versions I have heard seem to exalt the power of satan to hold on to
many generations simply because they have not learned this new science which
tends to go much beyond what I find in Scripture.

Truth is definitely the answer. Any individual who loves God and seeks for
His wisdom in His Word among His people will be delivered by that very
Truth. You may be right about the need for deliverance services, but I lean
more toward truth sharing and learning to renew our minds.

The great emphasis some place on deliverance services might indicate the
lack so many Christians have in their understanding of the simple yet
powerful truths of the faith. Our recent decision to study the first
principles listed in Hebrews 6 has revealed our lack in some areas but at
the same tiime a lack is being filled by the study.

"Above all your getting, get wisdom and understanding."

Dan Beaty
Columbus,Ohio USA
www.livingtruth.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Dowlen" <scottdowlen at cox.net>
To: <House Church Talk  at housechurch.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: House Church Talk -  God good to 9 generations- what about
generationalcurses?


> Dan,
>
> My personal thinking on generational curses is this: Once the adversary
> finds a weakness in one family member, he often just keeps up the same
work
> on the next generation. Satan's work is done when we start believing lies
> about who we are or who God is. We hold on to resentment instead of
> forgiving. We "try harder" instead of giving it to God. I have seen
> resentment against a parent's sin/failing actual draw the child into the
> very same sin.
>
> Sometimes, too, when we are victims of others' sins, the generational
nature
> of the curse is due to silence, fear, and shame. A molested child grows up
> with a messed up view of self (and/or others) that shades how he raises
his
> kids. Many times that distorted area opens up a door for similar abuse to
> happen to the children.
>
> For a child of God, if we are able to see the truth and believe it, then
we
> are set free (actually we are _already_ free, we just aren't living
> according to Truth). Most of the time it is pretty automatic. The hard
part
> is getting to the truth. Truth about self, about God, about the situation.
> Truth about what Jesus meant when He said "It is finished."  Deliverance
> services might be needed when demonic forces are still actively whispering
> lies into the believer's ear, but I have personally experienced the
> situation where God said I was doing the devil's work by accusing myself.
> Satan started the lie, and I kept it going.
>
> For me to break the 'generational curse', I had to not only mentally
assent
> to God's forgiveness for me, I had to embrace forgiveness in my heart - I
> had to FEEL forgiven. I had to forgive myself. Now the devil can no longer
> accuse me because I fully and deeply believe what God had already said
about
> me. And I had to forgive the one who sinned against me - which meant I had
> to let go of anger and resentment I had hidden away in my heart. I had to
be
> honest and 'confess' the thing to my family, and especially to my sons who
> would have been open to victimization just like I was. Now that we are
open
> about it, I can teach my sons to protect themselves. Should they be abused
> anyway, we can deal with it sooner, and in a healthier manner. We can
> counter lies with Truth.
>
> It comes down to believing Truth. Not one generic truth, but specific
truths
> about self and circumstance in light of what God has said is true. I was a
> new creature who didn't believe that a certain area of my life was
included
> in the new-making process, so I lived according to what I believed. The
> curse was broken when the light of Truth revealed my wrong thinking.
>
> I have little experience with many aspects of spiritual warfare and
demonic
> powers, so there may be other things I don't know about. But I have
> experienced first hand the stuff I shared above. My suspicion is that many
> 'deliverance services' are useless when the core issue is believing Truth.
> They may be needed when demons have some stronghold and are actively
camped
> out and doing their lying work. I couldn't speak authoritatively about
that
> part.
>
> Does any of this fit what you were asking?  BTW, I also have several
> generations of Godly influence in my life. I am truly blessed to see that
> continuing in my sons! Oh, the goodness and sweetness of God!!
>
>
> Scott Dowlen
> West Texas
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: House Church Talk -bounces at housechurch.org
> > [mailto:House Church Talk -bounces at housechurch.org]On Behalf Of Dan Beaty
> > Sent: Sunday, 07 November, 2004 8:57 AM
> > To: House Church Talk  at housechurch.org
> > Subject: Re: House Church Talk -  God good to 9 generations- what about
> > generational curses?
> >
> >
> > David and all,
> >
> > It is clear that godly examples can influence many generations. My
> > grandfather was a preacher in the early days of the Pentecostal
> > movement.  Four generations later my son is hungry to serve the
> > homeless and addicted ones in our area with the Gospel.
> >
> > But I am hearing a lot of talk these days about "generational
> > curses." I realise that all are under the curse of sin, but also
> > that the sins of the fathers are visited on the children of the
> > third and fourth generation of those who hate God.
> >
> > There is no doubt that often times the chain of addictions and
> > abusive behavior continues its hold on several generations. But
> > does that mean we have to all go to "deliverance services" where
> > generational curses are identified and individually broken?
> >
> > My experience in coming into Christ was becoming a "new creation, old
> > things passing away, and all things becoming new." Is anyone on this
> > list able to explain this other concept to me?
> >
> > Dan Beaty
> > Columbus, Ohio USA
> > www.livingtruth.com
> >
>
>
>
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