House Church Talk - I'm Disappointed

Robert L. Moseley robertlm at gvtc.com
Wed Sep 29 16:06:29 EDT 2004


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary" <isa30 at verizon.net>
To: <House Church Talk  at housechurch.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: House Church Talk -  I'm Disappointed


> Dear Dan,
>
> This may well be the case, and I will certainly be sure to consider what
you
> say. There are parallels between my own actions and ministry in the past
few
> months and that which I have heard described in various HC websites and
> authors. Particularly about the laity-clergy distinction and how the
actual
> NT makes no mention or projects no provision for such a practice.
>
> May I offer a word of suggestive encouragement? In Ephesians 4:11-13 we
read
> the following -
>
> 11 And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as
> evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the
> saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ;
13
> until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the
> Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs
to
> the fullness of Christ.
>
> May I suggest that you take a more proactive view of your position as the
> head of your family in regard to what the Lord teaches you about it. You
> are, by default a pastor and teacher to your own, so teaching from and in
> agreement with the Word is not trying to replace or reduce it's
> effectiveness. We are saved by the foolishness of preaching. How can we
hear
> unless there is one who proclaims the facts of the Gospel? Not all things
in
> th WOrd are equally clear, and God gives those pastors and teachers for
that
> purpose, Your presence and work is not as worthless and meandering as you
> may believe!
>
> May the LORD bless and keep you.
>
> Earnestly contending,
>
> Gary
>
> (Written using WindowEyes, the premier screenreading program from GW Micro
> that makes PCs accessible to the blind and visually impaired.  Contact:
> www.gwmicro.com)
>
> "Preach not only so that the people can understand, but so that they
cannot
> misunderstand if they wish."  CH.Spurgeon
>
> "Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might. Put on
the
> full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the
> schemes of the devil. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but
> against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this
> darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly
places.
> Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to
resist
> in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm."  Ephesians
> 6:10-13
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "DanG" <dan.dgordon at gmail.com>
> To: <House Church Talk  at housechurch.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 4:27 PM
> Subject: Re: House Church Talk -  I'm Disappointed
>
>
> > Gary wrote:
> > > I am in the process of studying the house church concept. I have no
> desire
> > > to rebound into something else without being as cerrtain as I can
about
> it's
> > > Biblicity. This is not to say that I am suspicious, only cautious.
> > >
> > > I had moved out to the midwest eight years ago to go to seminary and
> prepare
> > > for what I now understand to be a conventional, or civil, or
"habitual"
> > > pastorate. I love the Word of the Lord and believe the doctrines of
> grace as
> > > coming from that Word. I would ask your prayers for my study and the
> health
> > > of my family as we get back into the Bible. I'll tell you, seminary is
> the
> > > worst place to learn more of the Bible - I never studied it less than
> during
> > > my two years there.
> > >
> > > Earnestly contending,
> > >
> > > Gary
> >
> > Sounds as if you are already a house church in reality.  This is in
> > concept not another denomination, another seeker assembly.  It is
> > however, sensitive to what God has for you and those with you.  For
> > instance, I have written above about the profound disappointment my
> > sons express about life.  We do not attend a meeting, seeker or
> > otherwise just for the sake of warming a bench and satisfying a
> > theological goal of "assembling" together.  Instead, we sit together
> > on sunday morning and read the Bible together.  We do this every
> > morning - a few of our family.  But on sunday, we all 8 of us sit
> > together and I read outloud.  I read the Bible and let it speak.
> > Could I add to these words?  Yes, but I don't, nor does anyone else.
> > If it is worth anything, let the Word be something, not my worthless
> > meandering "teachings" about what the Bible can say perfectly clearly.
> >
> > Contending also,
> > DanG ChicagoArea
> >
> >
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