House Church Talk - mourning in Madrid

Scott Dowlen scottdowlen at
Wed Mar 24 08:24:29 EST 2004


I have been glad to see your posts again.  I had been praying for you as God
had put your name on my heart. I am not as disciplined in prayer as I should
be, but I did lift you up to Father.

The funny thing is, I had to laugh that I was led to pray for you -- you are
one of the people on this list that I just "don't get" if you know what I
mean. Let me explain (if I can).  You say some things that are polar
opposite of what I believe. You see things from a different political view.
And yet I truly admire your tender heart for the people around you and your
faith that is rewarded by answers from Father.  It's not that your different
views keep me from loving you, since I do love you with God's love - it's
just that I really have to let the Holy Spirit shut my mouth and give me
time to think and pray about the things you say.   I am not asking you to
edit your posts or even change your political views, I just want you to know
that you've forced at least one American believer to stop and think from
time to time.  And I can't say I've changed my mind on every issue you've
raised, but at least I got a different perspective and thought about it more
before moving on to the next thought.  I hope you understand what I mean
(I've done a poor job explaining) - and that you can laugh with me at the
wonderful and funny way Father works in our hearts.

I will continue to pray for your health and the ministry Christ has given
you. I will pray that Father will confirm his word to you with witnesses.
Thank you for your loving, giving heart that reaches out to lonely hurting

Your brother,


> -----Original Message-----
> From: House Church Talk -bounces at
> [mailto:House Church Talk -bounces at]On Behalf Of Vanessa
> DiDomenico
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 March, 2004 7:16 AM
> To: House Church Talk
> Subject: House Church Talk -  mourning in Madrid
> This is a little off-topic, but very personal for me. As a
> child, I was
> scared to death of terrorists, and often had horrible seizures while
> flying to NYC or Europe, while attacks were being carried
> out. I have been
> totally silent on the list because I had been having 2-6
> seizures every
> day, of the kind that seem like horror movies - Paul calls
> them slaps from
> satan's messengers in 2 Cor 12.
> I have been watching mass in Madrid for the dead at the train
> bombings.
> Why people accept the gigantic spending that building that
> cathedral must
> have cost, I will never understand. What does Jesus think every time
> people pray to Him in those places which more remind one of pharaoh's
> palaces than the original church He set up? And the immense
> hypocrisy of
> those people, dressed in clothes that must have cost thousands of
> dollars...
> But even as I sat there and thought this, I could not help cry. But...
> where were the families of the dead??? Left out in the rain??
> Inside all
> we saw were the princes and kings of here and there. The only one who
> seemed to deserve some admiration was a Morrocan prince, standing out
> dressed in white among all those in black, and the terrorists
> having been
> from Morroco, he was very brave to be there! I admire him. But as for
> everyone else, would it not have been more valuable to, for example,
> donate the money they spent on the clothes they used for the
> families of
> the dead??? Why can't people seem to understand these things. makes me
> want to dress even worse every day.
> I have prayed lately much to be cured of my own illness, and
> since I have
> had little else to do, have been praying much for both the
> victims of the
> terrorists and the terrorists themselves. I'm not sure who is
> worse. I'm
> not sure either if the terrorists are right in what they want
> to say, even
> if they don't know how to say it. Every day, I am less sure
> of anything at
> all.
> All I know, is humans need to stop spending on wars and start
> spending on
> removing the reasons for war. I recently prayed to get jobs as a
> translator, since its practically all I can do being sick, and I
> immediately got a full time job, right here at home, and
> compared to what
> people make here, it pays a fortune. This weekend I will be
> spending some
> of the money I made yesterday buying Quaker oatmeal and milk to make
> breakfast for the children (more like young teens) who sleep
> on the street
> near my warehouse. Soon I hope that will be an everyday
> program. I am also
> joining the international organization food4peace.
> I should also say, I have prayed to the Lord to cure me so i
> can do more,
> and He has. I took gigantic doses of a very strong medication, which
> didn't even make me sleepy (it makes people fall asleep
> immediately) and I
> have been seizure-free for about 8 days. I also prayed,
> asking God to show
> me if I should go get the surgery in NYC which would even be free, at
> Cornell. I prayed while watching heart surgery on TV, and
> said 'God, show
> me some epilepsy surgery someday if You say i should have it' and
> in less than 5 minutes, they showed epilepsy surgery for
> someone with the
> same type I have, except that she had bad brain damage because she had
> them from infancy nonstop. It seemed to mean 'be thankful
> that yours isn't
> this bad!'
> Well, I hope you are all doing well, and that your worship is
> doing well!
> Vanessa from venezuela
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