House Church Talk - Phil & his Visualizing

[Lee Underwood]

Jim,

This idea of deliberately provoking someone to get a reaction is very 
unscriptural. Where did Jesus do that to "get a reaction". That is of the 
world. Phillip is trying to draw closer to the Lord and you're using the 
ways of the world to get at people on this list. Do you then think it is 
o.k. to murder abortion doctors to get their attention? That kind of 
thinking is slightly bent.

Nobody on this list dumped on Phil. You seem to have a very bad attitude 
about that. When someone comes out against something wrong that someone is 
doing that's not dumping on them. I am having a real struggle here, Jim. 
You seem to be very "holier-than thou". What is you're problem? It's like 
this whole group is wrong and condemning and piling up on Phil and you come 
along with your sweetness and you show so much love. I have seen that 
spirit in the IC and it stinks!

Get past key words? That is the kind of philosophy that has gotten the 
church into the mess it is in today. He specifically said he was doing 
something and he did not want to know if it was bad or good. Claire pointed 
it out perfectly when she said that was a concerning remark. Key words? 
What about other things - sexual abuse, homosexuality, stealing, lying - 
are they just "key words"?

I don't owe Phil or anybody an apology. You need to apologize for your 
attitude.

Lee


>I deliberately wrote so as to provoke those feelings.  My hope is that you 
>might better grasp how our brother Phil must feel when he gets some of the 
>responses he has received.  Yes, most of them sounded very syrupy sweet 
>compared to mine.  But the message was the same.
>
>We must learn to get past "key" words and try to understand what a brother 
>or sister is saying.  Raise the question, if you need to.  But don't just 
>keep piling it on.
>
>This group (or at least those who engaged in dumping on Phil in the name 
>of "helping" him) owes Phil an apology.  That would be appropriate 
>Christian action at this time.
>
>Jim
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