House Church Talk - Re: House Church Talk Digest, Vol 3, Issue 61

[Claire Bennett]

Bruce, I really like your quiz.  Could I repost it on my discussion board,
Endtime Chaverim http://www.merville.biz/chaverim?
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>    1. RE: New testament church (Bruce Woodford)
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> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 06:42:06 -0500
> From: "Bruce Woodford" <bwood4d at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: House Church Talk -  New testament church
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> Hi Scott,
> Thank you for your prayers! That's my heart beat as well.
>
> Here's the list. For your own interest, answer it all yourself before
> checking the answers that follow.
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> I'd be interested to hear your comments.
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> Your brother in Christ,
> Bruce
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> HOW WELL YOU UNDERSTAND NEW COVENANT MINISTRY:
>
> -Place an "O" after Old Covenant practices-i.e. those which were to be
> practiced between the time of Israel's receiving the covenant at Sinai and
> the death of Christ at Calvary.
> -Place an "N" after New Covenant practices- i.e. those which are to be
> practiced by saints after the death and resurrection of Christ.
> -Place a "/" after practices that are never taught in scripture.
>
> 1. Teach speakers to preach to congregations from pulpits.  (   )
> 2. Teach saints that when the church assembles together they are to exhort
> one another, edify one another, confess their faults one to another, pray
> one for another, comfort one another, rejoice with those who rejoice and
> weep with those who weep.  (   )
> 3. Teach believers to erect consecrated buildings as places of
> worship/places to meet with God. (   )
> 4. Teach all believers that they are members of the clergy. (   )
> 5. Teach churches to meet in houses. (   )
> 6. Teach Christians to take collections to give to evangelists, preachers
> and teachers who come to minister in the church. (   )
> 7. Teach Christians to give tithes and offerings to help build and
maintain
> meeting places and support ministers.(   )
> 8. Teach believers that they are all ministers. (   )
> 9. Teach believers that all church leaders are to be "laymen". (   )
> 10. Teach the saints to gather to listen to sermons. (   )
> 11. Teach the saints that full-time workers are to be supported by others
> who work with  their hands.(   )
> 12.Teach believers that their pastors are to work with their hands to meet
> their own needs and to support others. (   )
> 13. Teach believers that full-time workers are to be given workers'
letters
> of commendation before commencing full-time Christian work (   )
> 14. Teach believers to gather together to stir one another up to love and
> good works. (   )
> 15. Teach believers that only specially qualified ministers may administer
> baptism and the Lord's supper. (   )
> 16. Teach Christian women to wear headcoverings in church meetings.  (   )
> 17. Teach Christian men not to wear hats or caps in church meetings. (   )
> 18. Teach believers to be quiet and reverent when they enter the house of
> the Lord on Sunday morning.  (   )
> 19. Teach believers to contribute to corporate church collections every
> Sunday.  (   )
> 20. Teach believers that God dwells in buildings which are erected or used
> as places of worship. (   )
> 21. Teach Christians that Sunday is the Lord's Day and Christians are to
> keep this day holy unto the Lord. (   )
> 22. Teach Christians to go to church at least every Sunday morning. (   )
> 23. Teach that most Christians are to be passive observers in church
> services. (   )
> 24. Teach Christians to be active participants when the church
gathers.(   )
> 25. Teach that those who have been gifted as evangelists, pastors and
> teachers are to be remunerated for their ministry, but those whose gifts
are
> exhortation, giving, ruling, showing mercy etc are to minister freely,
> voluntarily and without remuneration.  (   )
> 26. Teach christians that they are to personally and privately store up
the
> collection for the saints on the first day of the week. (   )
> 27. Teach God's people  to keep and observe a specific day of the week and
> certain days throughout the year in special ways. (   )
> 28. Teach believers that they are all ordained ministers. (   )
> 29.Teach Christians that whatever their ministry from the Lord to other
> people, it is to be ministered freely without charge.  (   )
>
>
>
> New Covenant Ministry Answer Key (with scriptures):
> 1. O  (Nehemiah 8:4)
> 2. N  (Hebrews 10:24,25; I Thess.5:11; James 5:16)
> 3. O (Ex.25:22; 30:6,36)
> 4. N (I Peter 5:3, "heritage" is the Greek word KLEROS  from which we get
> our word "clergy".)
> 5. N (Acts 8:3; Rom.16:5; I Cor.16:19; Col.4:15; Philemon 1:2)
> 6. /   (Rather we are to help those who GO FROM US "taking nothing of the
> gentiles" or charging, requiring or demanding nothing  of the Gentiles for
> their ministry. III John 1:6-8)
> 7. O  (Ex.25:1-8; Num.18:24,26,28)
> 8. N  (I Peter 4:10,11)
> 9. N  (I Peter 2:10, the "laity" are the LAOS or "people of God".)
> 10. /  (We have been deceived that homilies are monologue sermons and that
> "homiletics" is the art of sermon preparation and delivery!  The Greek
word
> HOMILEO is used four times in the scriptures and every time it is a
> conversation among a number of people! See Luke 24:14,15; Acts 20:11 and
> 24:26. HOMILEO is translated "talked" and "communed".)
> 11. O  (Numbers 18:24; Neh.10:37; 12:44; 13:5)
> 12.N (Acts 20:33-35)
> 13. /  (Neither "ordination certificates" for "Reverend pastors" nor
> "worker's letters of commendation" are ever found in scripture!  Letters
of
> commendation were often written for travelling saints to commend them to
> others at their destination.  Acts 18:27; Rom.16:1,2;  II Cor.3:1;
8:16-24;
> Philippians 2:19-24 and 25-30 etc. But each such letter had only one
journey
> and one destination in view. There was not one kind of letter of
> commendation for "ordinary Christians" and another for "Christian
workers"!)
> 14. N  (Hebrews 10:24,25)
> 15. /  (If making disciples and teaching them to observe what the Lord
Jesus
> commanded is the responsibility of every believer, then so is the
> responsibility to baptize such disciples. (Matt.28:18-20) NOBODY is given
> authority to "administer" the Lord's Supper!  Every believer is commanded,
> "This do in remembrance of me."!  (Luke 22:19)
> 16. /  (Rather, when they pray or prophesy. I Cor.11:5)
> 17. /  (Rather, when they pray or prophesy.  I Cor.11:4)
> 18. / (Believers ARE  the house of the Lord 24/7!  I Cor.3:16; Eph.2:22)
> 19. /  (I Cor.16:1,2 has personal ("every one of you") and private ("lay
by
> him in store")
>         collections in view, not corporate collections in a gathering!
> 20. O  (Ex.25:8, but is no longer true today. Acts 7:48; 17:24)
> 21. / (If just Sunday is "the Lord's Day", whose are all the rest???  See
> Romans 14:5,6 and Col.2:16,17)
> 22. /  (Christians don't GO to church, they ARE the church!  Just as I
don't
> "go to Woodford", I AM a Woodford!  )
> 23. /  Body members all have their own functions to fulfill as directed by
> the Head.  I Cor.12
> 24. N  (Heb.10:24,25)
> 25. / (Such a distinction is never taught in scripture!  Rather, we are
> members in a body and as each member ministers as it is meant to, and as
it
> is directed by the Head, the needs of all the members in the body are met.
I
> Cor.12:14-27)
> 26. N  (I Cor.16:1,2)
> 27. O  (Ex.20:8-11; Lev.23:3-37;  Romans 14:5,6; Col.2:16,17)
> 28. N  (John 15:16 -ordained to bear fruit that remains;  I Pet.4:10,11
all
> are gifted and all are to minister as good stewards of the manifold grace
of
> God.)
> 29. N  (Matt.10:8; Acts 20:33-35; I Cor.9:18)
>
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